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Change Driving Age Keep as is
Debate Score:124
Arguments:53
Total Votes:140
Ended:05/12/16
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Change the Driving Age to 18

Proposal to change the driving age to 18 rather than 16.

Change Driving Age

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Keep as is

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5 points

The driving age has long been 16, but I believe it is time for a change. We don't let teenagers under 18 vote for our president, so why would we let them put our lives and theirs in jeopardy behind the steering wheel of a large and possibly deadly vehicle.

Side: Change Driving Age
4 points

Raising the driving age is a good thing because it can make the roads safer. I believe that young teenagers, such as 16-year-olds, are immature and make the roads a dangerous place. “Nudging the legal driving age upwards a bit, that is, in the direction of more maturity, experience, and responsibility, would at least have the practical effect of reducing the number of 16-year-olds who are killed each year in auto accidents,” protested John M. Crisp. 16-year-olds are still immature and think that they are indestructible. Therefore, they are putting there life on the line.

Supporting Evidence: Source for Evidence (docs.google.com)
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3 points

Additionally, teenagers are not just putting their life in sake because of their immaturity, they are putting the life of many others in sake too. “Between 1995 and 2004, there were 30,917 fatalities in accidents that involved 15-to-17-year-old drivers, according to a study by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. About a third of those deaths were the teen drivers themselves. The rest were pedestrians, passengers, and people in cars that teenage drivers struck,” stated Representative John D'Amico Democrat, Illinois State Legislature. That explains that 3/4 of the deaths are the passengers and not the drivers. If the drivers that got into care crashes were a little more experienced that accident might have never happened. Not to mention the fact that the young driver will have to live with the fact that they killed someone for the rest of their life. All because they weren't ready to drive yet. Just imagine if they were a little more mature and had the extra 2 years to prepare and become more mature. It could be a complete life changer.

Supporting Evidence: Supportive evidence (docs.google.com)
Side: Change Driving Age
21lkopsi(2) Disputed
2 points

Changing the driving age is going to make 18-year-old's immature also. They will have 0 experience just like a 16-year-old. Also, kids are not allowed to drink and drive at 16, but at 18 people are allowed to drink. That will cause more accidents and more death. People think it is ok to go and have a drink and then drive home but that can hurt people and kill people. Kids should learn about driving earlier so they will know the consequences and the things that drinking and driving can do. In that case, 16-year-olds are just as mature as 18-year-old's, and there is always a life put on the line, no matter how old you are.

Supporting Evidence: Debate.org (Debate.org)
Side: Keep as is
21lhoffmann Disputed
2 points

You have good point bringing up that they are putting their life on the line but I still agree with the fact that the driving age should stay the same. You say that 16-year-olds are immature and can make the roads a dangerous place but according to The Herold (News Source) teens become more responsible when they start driving. "By the time teens are 16 they need to start taking some responsibilities on themselves, including personal transportation. If they have to wait until they are 17 or 18 to start to drive, they remain dependent on parents practically until they ready to go off to college, join the military or take a civilian job." Imagine you were the parent of an 18-year-old who needs a ride somewhere. You would not want to go and drive your child somewhere far away. When teens get their licence they are able to take on many responsibilities and can be trusted more. Therefore, I think the driving age should stay the same.

Supporting Evidence: The Herald Online (www.heraldonline.com)
Side: Keep as is
21lreschke(7) Disputed
1 point

I think that raising the driving age is unnecessary for this situation. I think this because 18-year-olds will still be just as inexperienced and 16-year-olds are, which wouldn't make the roads any safer.

Side: Keep as is
1 point

Yes, I agree. San Pasqual Union School Principal says "All 50 states prohibit 16-year-olds from drinking alcohol, buying cigarettes, and purchasing handguns. Yet somehow most states are willing to put them in charge of a car, which could potentially be more of a deadly weapon than some of those other things." Therefore, more kids are going to get in more trouble handling a car at 16 then all these harmful weapons and drugs.

Side: Change Driving Age
5 points

Nationally, 963,000 teen drivers were involved in police-reported motor vehicle crashes in 2013, which resulted in 383,000 injuries and 2,865 deaths. While raising the driving age there could be less accidents and less deaths. In 2013, 2,163 teens in the United States ages 16–19 were killed and 243,243 were treated in emergency departments for injuries suffered in motor vehicle crashes. Even tho it does go to 19 it goes one above 18 but there is a number below 16 and two numbers before 18 there are more cases of the ages less than 18 then there is above 18.

Side: Change Driving Age
5 points

Nationally, 963,000 teen drivers were involved in police-reported motor vehicle crashes in 2013, which resulted in 383,000 injuries and 2,865 deaths. While raising the driving age there could be less accidents and less deaths. In 2013, 2,163 teens in the United States ages 16–19 were killed and 243,243 were treated in emergency departments for injuries suffered in motor vehicle crashes. Even tho it does go to 19 it goes one above 18 but there is a number below 16 and two numbers before 18 there are more cases of the ages less than 18 then there is above 18.

Side: Change Driving Age
4 points

I believe that the driving age should be increased to the age of 18. This is because there have been increased amounts of crashes, most consisting of young drivers. “Between 1995 and 2004, there were 30,917 fatalities in accidents that involved 15-to-17-year-old drivers, according to a study by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. About a third of those deaths were the teen drivers themselves” According to —Representative John D'Amico Democrat, Illinois State Legislature

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21bhackbart(1) Clarified
1 point

This is a link to my article that I got this information from.

Supporting Evidence: Document (docs.google.com)
Side: Change Driving Age
4 points

Kids start to drive at the age of 16 and 17 where they are unable to pay for their own fee's if they get a ticket. Tickets in the state of Wisconsin usually cost up to $168 dollars including court fines and additionally money that needs to be paid Also going with this you can lose a total of 6 points that could result in losing your driver's license. But if your 18 years you don't have to rely on your parents to have to pay your tickets you can pay them yourself which could help with the parents having money for college and also not having you have to pay them back in the future.

Supporting Evidence: Tickets in Wisconsin (cars.laws.com)
Side: Change Driving Age
21lkopsi(2) Disputed
1 point

Kids should be able to have jobs to pay off a fee. You are perfectly capable of getting a job at 16 and older. Kids should also be more careful when they drive. No matter how old you are you are still living with your parents and you can still get a job. If you are 18 you don't move out until later, when you are done with school and stuff. No matter if your 16 or 18 you are still capable of paying off your fee, kids can get jobs.

Side: Keep as is
21kvancuyk(4) Disputed
1 point

Kids can pay off fees at the age of 16 or 17. Most kids at the age of 16 and 17 work and have money. Most people have money saved up for college but still have money to spend. Not all parents are willing to even pay their kids fine because it's their fault, not the parents.

Side: Keep as is
21lreschke(7) Disputed
1 point

I think that most kids of age 16 and 17 normally would have a job. Then in that way, they could pay off their own speeding ticket and then there parents would not have to pay for it.

Side: Keep as is
21awallenfan(4) Disputed
1 point

Speeding is not the only reason people want to change the driving age. In 2014, Five teenage passengers were killed and a 16-year-old driver was severely injured. The victims were described as two females and three males, one of whom was an 8th-grader. This is showing that even though if they were speeding and had to pay for their ticket situations like this happen and happen often to people under the age of 18. So even though kids can afford their speeding tickets deaths and injuries are not eliminated from this situation.

Side: Change Driving Age
4 points

I believe that the driving age is at a too low of an age currently and that it should be changed to 18 years old instead because 16-year-olds are often bad drivers and get into crashes and 18-year-olds have more years of education and are more mature.

There are more decision-making skills that have been practiced in the two years from 16-18 that can help limit dangerous thrill seeking experiences. This just goes to show that 16-year-olds don't always make good decisions and should not be allowed on the roads until they are 18 where they can make better decisions for both their's and other people's protection. There are also many new issues that may cause distraction for teens while driving like "texting and driving". 18 year most likely wouldn't get distracted over these types of things because they have had more time to mature

Supporting Evidence: Vision Launch (www.drive-safely.net)
Side: Change Driving Age
4 points

I agree with Jacob because 16-year-olds don't have much experience in the world and can't make decisions faster. 18-year-olds can make decisions better and will have more experience because they can start practicing at 16-years-old and be better when they take their driving test.

Side: Change Driving Age
4 points

I agree with 21bhackbart, within the two-year gap in between the ages 16 and 18, kids become more mature and receive more education. With their knowledge on both schooling and maturity, 18-year-olds would make better decisions. Teenagers develop senses, reasoning and other functions and maturity last so it would make sense that they aren’t mature enough to drive yet and the driving age should be increased. Therefore, I agree with 21bhackbart that the two-year gap would be beneficial to 16-year-olds before they begin driving

Supporting Evidence: Aspeneducation (aspeneducation.crchealth.com)
Side: Change Driving Age
4 points

I think the driving age should not be raised to a higher age because teens need the privilege to feel like they are getting older and have rights as a teen. Also, when you get older you will be able to drive yourself places instead of having to have a parent or pay for taxi Santa Fe high school did a poll and most teens think it is unfair if they raise the age because they are waiting to get their licenses and now they raise the age also teen have sports are usually involved in sports so they need ways to get there without their parents because they may work

http://www.teenink.com/opinion/all/article/320326/Driving-Age/

Side: Change Driving Age
oliviaswan(3) Clarified
4 points

I put this on the wrong side mine is supposed to be with the driving age should not raise

Side: Change Driving Age
4 points

I agree with 21kdolleovet because teenagers develop senses, reasoning and other functions and maturity last so it would make sense that they aren’t mature enough to drive yet and the driving age should be increased.

Supporting Evidence: Aspeneducation (aspeneducation.crchealth.com)
Side: Change Driving Age
3 points

16-year old drivers have more accidents than any other age group. According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety,” 16-year-old drivers have more accidents per highway mile than any other age group.”

Supporting Evidence: Source (goo.gl)
Side: Change Driving Age
3 points

6.7% of teen drivers drove while distracted by an electronic device, more than twice as many drivers (15.1%) drove while engaged in other distracting activities, including adjusting controls, grooming, eating or drinking, reaching for an object inside the car, communicating with people outside of the car, turning around to see the backseat, and reading.

Side: Change Driving Age
3 points

While some people are ready, many other teens may not be ready to get behind the wheel. “All 50 states prohibit 16-year-olds from drinking alcohol, buying cigarettes, and purchasing handguns. Yet somehow most states are willing to put them in charge of a car, which could potentially be a deadly weapon.”

Supporting Evidence: Source (docs.google.com)
Side: Change Driving Age
2 points

I agree, kids can be just as deadly with a firearm if not more deadly with a car, kids will be ready at the age of 18. They would be more mature and less reckless.

Side: Change Driving Age
3 points

That may be true 21avannuland, how do you explain that at an older age, people are more mature, experienced, and more responsible. This just shows that a 16-year-old would not be as mature as an 18-year-old and so the driving age should be increased

Side: Change Driving Age
21lreschke(7) Disputed
1 point

Yes, that is correct they will be more mature but they still will not be experienced. Hasse said, "I feel they have a sense of what's right, what's wrong." "I think the only issue is experience there. I think you'll be just as inexperienced driving at age 17,18 or 19."

Side: Keep as is
2 points

According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, kids are most likely to get into an accident when they get their license because they are curious and are more timid/less smooth of a driver. Which can lead to more crashes

Side: Change Driving Age
21lreschke(7) Disputed
1 point

I don't agree with this because I think that with their temps and with all of their classes they would know all of the rules. And they would want to follow them because driving more slowly or fastly would possibly lead to crashing which is why I think that they would follow all of the rules because they would not want to get into crashes.

Side: Keep as is
2 points

Another reason why the driving age shouldn't be raised is because of the future. Kids need the experience of driving before they are an adult. If the driving age is raised, they will have to take lessons during college and they won't have a car until they get their licence. They need a car to get around for many of reasons to get food, water, etc.

Side: Keep as is
2 points

From the article “Opposed - Driving Age” it says from the text, “If we raise the driving age who is going to take the kids to dates, dances, or other school events? The majority of parents have to take their kids to other activities; they don't have time to chauffeur their kids around.”. This statement from the texts proves that kids won’t be able to go to the places they want unless parents or people of the age 18 drive them to the events and it says at the very end of the text “they don’t have time to chauffeur their kids around” which means they don’t have the time to take their kids wherever they need to go. - THIS IS FOR EVIDENCE REFERRING TO ONE OF MY OTHER REASONS

Supporting Evidence: Evidence (docs.google.com)
Side: Keep as is
2 points

The driving age should not be raised to 18 because, it's not the age, its the training. They get trained the basics, and what to do for your license. But they are not taught to master the skills that a collision-free driving needs. They certainly were not taught how to avoid common risks.

Supporting Evidence: Seattle Times (www.seattletimes.com)
Side: Keep as is
1 point

I agree that they should keep the driving age because you are inexperienced either way. 16-year-old's are just as inexperienced as an 18-year old would be. It doesn't matter how old you are it matters on how many good choices you make. If they were to change the age, You are just putting off maturity. No matter the age, you are inexperienced either way. So changing the drinking age would only make people wait longer for their license.

Side: Keep as is
21kdolleovet(9) Disputed
5 points

when you change the age to 18 they will be more mature than when they were 16 so even tho they are both inexperienced an 18-year-old is more experienced than a 16-year-old

Side: Change Driving Age
21iclark(3) Disputed
3 points

“The Safe Teen and Novice Driver Uniform Protection Act would provide for a three-stage process that begins with a learner's permit at age 16 and leads up to full licensure at 18. This would be a good law. That way everyone would get what they want and there would be a compromise,"started John M. Crisp, Scripps Howard News Service. I think that there should be a compromise because it is never too early to start practicing driving, but I still believe that 16-17-year-olds are too immature and the couple more years will help them make more rational decisions.

Supporting Evidence: Evidence for Statement (docs.google.com)
Side: Change Driving Age
21bhackbart(1) Disputed
2 points

A 16-year-olds experience is different to an 18-year-olds experience. There is a two-year gap in between that, for kids to be observing other drivers that make mistakes, which then they can learn from them, even if he/she is not driving. They also become more familiar with the roads that they are used to traveling on, and they can notice more safe ways to get from one place to another. The two-year differential makes a big difference.

Side: Change Driving Age
21ocampbell Disputed
2 points

Even though many teens need to get around places, many are not mature yet and need a guardian or an adult to drive them around. “One 16-year-old's brain might be more developed than another 18-year-old's, just as a younger teen might be taller than an older one. But evidence is mounting that a 16-year-old's brain is generally far less developed than those of teens just a little older. New findings from brain researchers at the National Institutes of Health explain for the first time why efforts to protect the youngest drivers usually fail. The weak link: what's called ‘the executive branch’ of the teen brain — the part that weighs risks, makes judgments and controls impulsive behavior. Scientists at the NIH campus in Bethesda, Md., have found that this vital area develops through the teenage years and isn't fully mature until age 25. One 16-year-old's brain might be more developed than another 18-year-old's, just as a younger teen might be taller than an older one. But evidence is mounting that a 16-year-old's brain is generally far less developed than those of teens just a little older.”

Supporting Evidence: Source (goo.gl)
Side: Change Driving Age
1 point

I agree with you because both ages would not know the feeling of being behind the wheel so it is fair just to keep it at the younger age

Side: Keep as is
1 point

I think that the driving age should stay the same. The driving age should stay 16 because 16-year-old drivers crash mostly because of inexperience. If the driving age is raised then 18-year-olds will also crash because of inexperience. According to Dr. J Arnett from Clark University, risky behavior affects 16-17-year-old males just as much as it does males in their early 20's. This shows that if we raise the driving age to 18 there will still be many accidents, therefore, the driving age should stay the same.

Supporting Evidence: Injury Prevention (injuryprevention.bmj.com)
Side: Keep as is
21kdolleovet(9) Disputed
2 points

even tho they are both inexperienced the 18-year-old is more experienced than the 16-year-old, which would have fewer accidents altogether. Just by raising the age there will be fewer deaths.

Side: Change Driving Age
21ocampbell Disputed
2 points

Even though some teens think they are focused on the road, they might get distracted and possibly get into a car accident by texting, calling, or eating. “The probability that a motor vehicle crash involved a cellphone is 1 out of 4 people.”

Supporting Evidence: Source (goo.gl)
Side: Change Driving Age

I agree with 21lhoffmann because kids that are 16 are just as experienced as if they started driving at 18. They don't have more experience just because their older and usually is not the kids fault when it comes to crashes it is most likely due to drunk driving or adults that aren't paying attention to the road.

Side: Keep as is
1 point

You said that those 16-year-olds are just as experienced as 18 years old. I believe that is not true because at 18 if you start taking classes at the same time kids do now there will be more years you have learned about driving and the safety, therefore you are more prepared and ready to start driving. Also, just because 16-year-olds "have the same experience."This doesn't mean they are as safe as 18-year-olds and don't get in trouble more than 18-year-olds.

Side: Keep as is
1 point

The driving age should not be raised to 18 because it's harder for the parents. Some parents can’t be there to pick them up from school. They won't be able to get to their work. And they might have to be reliable on older siblings who are not necessarily reliable.

Supporting Evidence: Chicago Tribune (articles.chicagotribune.com)
Side: Keep as is
1 point

The driving age should not be raised to 18 because it's not going to make a difference on crashes. It's the inexperience in the 16-year-olds. If you raise it to 18 it would just mean there would be more crashing for 18-year-olds. Studies say most adults at the age of 18 start heavily drinking causing more drunk driving. By raising it to 18 all we would be doing is delaying the deaths two years.

Supporting Evidence: A. J. Rox (docs.google.com)
Side: Keep as is
1 point

I think that the driving age should stay the same because of fairness for kids. Some kids who can learn quickly and understand how serious they need to take driving shouldn't be held back for kids who don't care. Also if teens have already had experience driving AT Vs or four wheeler's could also be more advanced. According to Santa Fe High School senior Madison Wilkinson.

Side: Keep as is
21awallenfan(4) Disputed
1 point

Yes, I know some kids can handle driving a car at 16 but if we eliminate 16-year-old drivers in all the chance of car crash injuries that affect people for their whole lifetime, and deaths will be reduced. if we could tell who would be a safe driver and who would not people would try to make hat happen. But how are you supposed to tell who is going to be safe all the time?

Side: Change Driving Age
1 point

Also, Landon White said, That an 18-year-old is just as reckless at a 16-year-old. This is because both of these ages are both going to be inexperienced which is what is really comes down to.

Side: Keep as is
1 point

Also, Landon White said, that driving teaches responsibility. Having kids realize that they have to be safe and pay attention and think that this is their life that could be in harm. So learning responsibility at an early age will help in later life.

Side: Keep as is
0 points

I believe that the driving age should stay the same because kids need to go to places. For example, they need to go to after school events, dates, and other important events. Parents usually take their kids to the events and they don't feel like driving their kids everywhere or the parents are busy and can't drive their kids everywhere. This is one reason why the driving age shouldn't be raised.

Side: Keep as is